BTB’s Hall of Very Very Good

The HALL of VERY VERY GOOD
A BTB tribute
to the non-Hall of Famers; our personal heroes;
those players who are close but not quite;
those players who were great in our view but
never made a speech in Cooperstown;
those players we feel were pretty damn good and are
firmly entrenched in our mental libraries.
For them, and for us, Let’s open the doors to the new
HALL OF VERY VERY GOOD.
Submit a name at,
TripleToRight@yahoo.com

CONSTITUTION of the HOVVG
         
* Player must have played baseball between 1846 to the present.
* Player must be retired or dead!
* Player can not be in Hall of Fame.

*BTB does not care how nice a guy or how much of a tool a given player is.
All I ask is there be a case for them being good 

OR
their rap-sheet be that impressive and the majority agrees.
* Steroids, PED cheats, coke heads, and cheats in general are welcome but
their Bio will be clearly indicative of such transgressions. 
In some cases it may even enhance their election depending on our own set of morals and standards.  Some people are just Social Diseases, but with everything we’ll put them up for vote.
* Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson are still banned, just because!
AMENDED ~ SEE BELOW
After WEEK 5 a motion to allow these two players eligible for a vote was PASSED.
 
* A name will not suffice. 
A case will be made and the BloggerHood will vote on said player. 
A MAJORITY vote decides. Votes resulting in a tie do not gain election:
MAJORITY RULES ~ TIES LOSE
After WEEK 5 a motion to AMEND this was DENIED by the FANS.
After Week 7 a candidate is now required to have a minimum of 4 YES VOTES.
 
 
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Our players can be famous or infamous; good guys or bad guys. 
But what ever they are most famous for, it better be good (or delightfully bad). 
They just can’t suck ~ (reference “the MENDOZA LINE”)
 
I think we all know what we want out of a Hall of Very Very Good. 
I’ll leave the rest to you folks.  The more participation, the more “funner”.
If you have a name you want voted on for enshrinement
e-mail me at tripletoright@yahoo.com 
I’ll run the post with your players entry and link your blog.
Don’t forget a quick Bio on your player the way you want him represented.
Majority Votes Qualifies.  Ties loose.  Period.
Otherwise I will submit a name every Sunday night and voting will stay open
for a week, ending the next Sunday.
 
The voting booth is never closed until it’s closed.
(take that! Yogi)
 
 
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AMENDMENTS to this codex are open for discussion and very welcome.
 
FIRST AMENDMENT 
~ one player, per blogger, per week
Imposed Week 2; Voted and upheld Week 5
 
SECOND AMENDMENT
~ Shoeless Joe and Pete Rose ban is lifted. 
They will be exposed to a vote.  Motion passed Week 5
 
THIRD AMENDMENT
~ A candidate needs a minimum of FOUR YES VOTES to gain
election into HoVVG.  Voted Week 7
Majority Rules/Ties Lose still applies.
 
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Of course I have many names I’d like to have voted on.  After all, it’s my idea.
Try a name like Vinny Castilla.  A Rockies fan might try to make a good case for him.  We may think he was a product of the thin air and vote him down.  Someone may bring up Tommy John and we may think he’s a slam dunk to be in.  So let’s see. 
 
It’s sort of a test to see where we all stand.

Examples of Candidates for election:

Al Oliver
18 years mostly with PITT, TEX, MON
2743 hits, 529 doubles, 1326 RBI, 219 home runs, 
.303 career batting avg.
11 years batted over .300, 9 seasons in a row,
one batting title .331
1982 led league in hits, doubles, rbi, and batting avg.
It’s not his fault he played in the shadow of Roberto Clemente and Willie Stargell in PITT and Andre Dawson and Gary Carter in Montreal.  If you’re too young to remember him, he was one of the sweetest swinging lefties in the game.

Luis Tiant
el Tiante’
19 yrs mostly with Cleveland and Boston
career record 229-172  .571 pct.
led league in ERA twice with ERA under 2.00
lifetime ERA 3.30
400 less hits than innings pitched.
20 game winner 4 times
2416 strikeouts in 3486 innings
between 1972-1979 averaged 16 wins
The bedrock and ACE of the 1975 Red Sox team.
One of the greatest and most eccentric wind-ups by a pitcher EVER!

 
 
Would you like guys like these in your
Hall of Very Very Good?
Do you have a player that you would like recognized by us;
the Fans?

 

E-Mail in candidates and
Start the voting!
Let’s see how this goes and if it catches on.

Let’s see what works for us and let it evolve.
All suggestions are welcome.

Remember, e-mail me a name and we’ll vote on our
Fan’s Hall of Very Very Good. 
Otherwise like I said, I will submit a name regularly.

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After WEEK 5,  HOVVG underwent a review process.

Motions to Amend the HOVVG Constitution were put to vote.

Results of the VOTE for proposed

AMENDMENTS to HOVVG CONSTITUTION

*

 ITEM ONE:

The motion to expand number of candidates per week is denied. 

The Fans have spoken with a(n) unanimous vote.

9 VOTES versus 0 Votes

 HOVVG CONSTITUTION remains as such;

One Player, Per Week, Per Blogger.

 *

 ITEM TWO:

The motion to increase the percentage of Popular Votes

needed for selection into HOVVG is denied…barely.

The Fans have spoken with a mixed vote.

*4 VOTES to maintain the current system of

Majority Rules/Ties Lose

*3 VOTES to increase the percentage up to 70%

* 2 VOTES to increase the percentage up to 60%

 HOVVG CONSTITUTION remains as such;

In matters of voting and player selections ~ Majority Vote Rules/Ties Lose.

 *

 ITEM THREE:

The motion to agree and make eligible, Shoeless Joe Jackson and Pete Rose,

for the purposes of inclusion into the VOTE PROCESS is passed.

This HOVVG AMENDMENT is passed and the issue closed. 

Both players will be exposed to a VOTE of the FANS.

 

See the whole Vote to Amend HOVVG Constitution

and everyone’s comments

HERE

 

 

IN WEEK 7

A MOTION TO AMEND HoVVG CONSTITUTION
was submitted to a vote:

A proposal to require candidates gain a minimum number

of votes for election was ~ PASSED

4 VOTE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT ~ 5 VOTES YES

KEEP SYSTEM THESAME ~ 3 VOTES YES

5 VOTE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT ~ 1 VOTE YES.

The motion is passed.  Let the record show a candidate now needs

a minimum 4 YES VOTES in addition to “Majority Rules/Ties Lose”

 

 

http://thebrooklyntrolleyblogger.mlblogs.com/

17 Comments

I like this idea, this should be fun… I’ll try and email you info and a pic too, of my first choice by the weekend and some suggestions on the voting…

-peter
Phillies Outside

Peter ~ Very cool. But you forgot to vote on these two guys!
Yes or No?

I’ll vote ‘yes’ on both, and you’ll definately be hearing from me. My three favorite players of all time will never be in Cooperstown, but always in the MIB HOF.
–Mike
‘Minoring In Baseball’
http://burrilltalksbaseball.mlblogs.com

Okay, I’m going to have to think long and hard on this one. This is a fantastic idea. I’ll get back to ya soon.
–Jeff
http://redstatebluestate.mlblogs.com/
http://mtrredstatebluestate.com

To All ~ OK…we’ll let this rip for a couple of days. Sunday we’ll launch with everyone’s entry this week and we’ll move from there. Like I said…this will be a work in progress.

Great idea and I’d certainly vote for Tiant. (Don’t really know about Oliver since I’m so AL-centric.) Will give this some thought!

- http://janeheller.mlblogs.com

I like the idea. I’ll get back to you.
http://catlovesthedodgers.mlblogs.com

Ok, you killed my idea when you banned Rose…lol I’ll have to think about it. It is a really fun idea :O)

Jenn
http://philliesphollowers.mlblogs.com/

Two names comes to mind right away! I will email oh wait! three! Great idea. I like both Oliver and Tiante. Do I have to choose one? ahhh, El Tiante ’cause I have this thing for ptichers and catcher! oh my!
.
Hey did you see my 70′s night post prior to the Ely post? A friend told me on facebook that I look like Huggybear from Starsky and Hutch. Ouch! LOL.
Emma
http://crzblue.mlblogs.com

Emma ~ I will go back and check! Vote on both names I put up. Sunday we’ll start the official vote…in the mean time
e-mail in. Let’s try to keep it to one entry per person per week.

Jenn ~ sorry about Pete Rose. But this list is designed to piss us off too LOL glad you’re on board. Tell your friends. : )

Great idea. I have submitted my nomination of Dale Murphy, and of course Luis will have my vote!

Hmmm Ok Mike, I’ll narrow it down to one vote.
.
Hey Thomasox. When you click on thomasox , you get page not found.
Emma
http://crzblue.mlblogs.com

I gotta say yes to both.. Tiant before my time, but the fact that he went from the Tribe to the BoSox to the Yankees means he was obviously pretty good, Oliver again before my time, (clarify I got into baseball in ’84) although Oliver did wear a Phillies uni in 85 for a couple of dozen games he didn’t do much, but he was pretty good for the Pirates for around 10 seasons…

-peter

That’s the idea everybody. We already have a bunch of good entries. I want to laugh like hell when we shoot somebody down. Not the blog author of course…but the player.

I’ve created the link bubbles on the side. I’ve already started drafting the first VOTE post. When I publish the post Sunday I will include it in the link bubble and we can move forward from there.

Remember…we will use this as a home page for the HOVVG.

Sunday we start the official voting.

I love this post~ It’s amazing how this game of baseball accepts all kinds of players. Not just one particular type. I think it’s important to celebrate those who have made an impact but not QUITE good enough to be in the Hall. Heck there are even guys who should be in the hall and aren’t. And the debate goes on and on. I for one appreciate the fact that you are recognizing these people who had great careers. Speaking of that, I have lots of guys I enjoy watching that won’t get into the Hall of Fame but that doesn’t mean their careers don’t mean anything. I think that’s important to throw out there. Any player can make an impact in an organization in different ways.

great idea!

http://mimi.mlblogs.com

Rock the VOTE Mimi! : )

GO ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….ENGLAND….

LMAO…
-peter
Phillies Outside

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